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	<title>Comments on: Control</title>
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	<description>Without Point of View</description>
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		<title>By: hazelrah</title>
		<link>http://www.NothingHasMeaning.com/2007/11/11/control/comment-page-1/#comment-370</link>
		<dc:creator>hazelrah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 15:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that&#039;s crazy that i quoted john lennon and you mentioned him in your reply without knowing he&#039;d said that. i just meant let&#039;s do this thing, you know?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that&#8217;s crazy that i quoted john lennon and you mentioned him in your reply without knowing he&#8217;d said that. i just meant let&#8217;s do this thing, you know?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Stamas</title>
		<link>http://www.NothingHasMeaning.com/2007/11/11/control/comment-page-1/#comment-369</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Stamas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 04:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish you would say what you mean.

The only bummer about the eighties was the murder of John Lennon and the myriad only children born of former hippies turned middle class Americana.

Ah well, some of them are brilliant little shites with big mouths.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish you would say what you mean.</p>
<p>The only bummer about the eighties was the murder of John Lennon and the myriad only children born of former hippies turned middle class Americana.</p>
<p>Ah well, some of them are brilliant little shites with big mouths.</p>
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		<title>By: hazelrah</title>
		<link>http://www.NothingHasMeaning.com/2007/11/11/control/comment-page-1/#comment-368</link>
		<dc:creator>hazelrah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 00:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>weren&#039;t the 70s a drag? let&#039;s try and make the 80s good.</description>
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		<title>By: Mark Stamas</title>
		<link>http://www.NothingHasMeaning.com/2007/11/11/control/comment-page-1/#comment-367</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Stamas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haven&#039;t read Kidder.

Insanity, don&#039;t forget that nothing has meaning without point of view.

In trying to decipher what the heck you are driving at I assume you are referring to the human experience when you reference the world.

The world is fine. Came down with a virus for a time, the human race, but, takes more than the human race to kill the host.

As for the human experience, chaos always reigns, and always will. If you desire that we all be true to a set of common values and precepts, not gonna happen, thankfully, but it has been tried. 

The uniting values of the human race all stem from animal behavior that is pre-programmed in the genes, and however unsatisfactory this may be, is the fact. 

Overcoming those limitations is the cause of the blooming of great societies that, alas, always fail to sustain these enlightened periods, when the other human urges come to the fore.

Luckily, we have renewal. This time, truly, renewal is not enough, for us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haven&#8217;t read Kidder.</p>
<p>Insanity, don&#8217;t forget that nothing has meaning without point of view.</p>
<p>In trying to decipher what the heck you are driving at I assume you are referring to the human experience when you reference the world.</p>
<p>The world is fine. Came down with a virus for a time, the human race, but, takes more than the human race to kill the host.</p>
<p>As for the human experience, chaos always reigns, and always will. If you desire that we all be true to a set of common values and precepts, not gonna happen, thankfully, but it has been tried. </p>
<p>The uniting values of the human race all stem from animal behavior that is pre-programmed in the genes, and however unsatisfactory this may be, is the fact. </p>
<p>Overcoming those limitations is the cause of the blooming of great societies that, alas, always fail to sustain these enlightened periods, when the other human urges come to the fore.</p>
<p>Luckily, we have renewal. This time, truly, renewal is not enough, for us.</p>
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		<title>By: insanityisnoexcuse</title>
		<link>http://www.NothingHasMeaning.com/2007/11/11/control/comment-page-1/#comment-366</link>
		<dc:creator>insanityisnoexcuse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 05:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Stop beating around the bush!&quot;: Quit bringing George into this.

&quot;Values grow out of nature and nurture, genes and environment.&quot;: Yes, but so what? It doesn&#039;t work. Whose values? Are mine better than yours? Look around - this planet is in a state of chaos. Everyone is making decisions of some sort, even while they&#039;re blaming someone else. Unless there is some agreement on common ground, everyone can be true to themselves and there will still be chaos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Stop beating around the bush!&#8221;: Quit bringing George into this.</p>
<p>&#8220;Values grow out of nature and nurture, genes and environment.&#8221;: Yes, but so what? It doesn&#8217;t work. Whose values? Are mine better than yours? Look around &#8211; this planet is in a state of chaos. Everyone is making decisions of some sort, even while they&#8217;re blaming someone else. Unless there is some agreement on common ground, everyone can be true to themselves and there will still be chaos.</p>
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		<title>By: hazelrah</title>
		<link>http://www.NothingHasMeaning.com/2007/11/11/control/comment-page-1/#comment-365</link>
		<dc:creator>hazelrah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 01:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>have you read mountains beyond mountains, by tracy kidder? great example of someone who is living your mantra. fucking excellent example. read it tonight and we shall discuss it and our world philosophy this weekend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>have you read mountains beyond mountains, by tracy kidder? great example of someone who is living your mantra. fucking excellent example. read it tonight and we shall discuss it and our world philosophy this weekend.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Stamas</title>
		<link>http://www.NothingHasMeaning.com/2007/11/11/control/comment-page-1/#comment-364</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Stamas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guess I misread the metaphor.

Stop beating around the bush!

Values grow out of nature and nurture, genes and environment.

All That Is</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guess I misread the metaphor.</p>
<p>Stop beating around the bush!</p>
<p>Values grow out of nature and nurture, genes and environment.</p>
<p>All That Is</p>
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		<title>By: insanityisnoexcuse</title>
		<link>http://www.NothingHasMeaning.com/2007/11/11/control/comment-page-1/#comment-363</link>
		<dc:creator>insanityisnoexcuse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 05:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roots aren&#039;t enough. What supports the roots? Dirt? Water? Values grow or evolve out of something. What??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roots aren&#8217;t enough. What supports the roots? Dirt? Water? Values grow or evolve out of something. What??</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Stamas</title>
		<link>http://www.NothingHasMeaning.com/2007/11/11/control/comment-page-1/#comment-362</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Stamas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They are the roots.</description>
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		<title>By: insanityisnoexcuse</title>
		<link>http://www.NothingHasMeaning.com/2007/11/11/control/comment-page-1/#comment-361</link>
		<dc:creator>insanityisnoexcuse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Peeling away the layers of external forces and turning inward to ourselves, frees us from the abdication of responsibility and the bearing of a burden of guilt for otherâ€™s actions, while in fact making letting it all go possible.&quot;

Dang - you&#039;ve dropped the nitty right into the gritty. You ought to consider writing stuff.

But tell me, do values just hang out there by themselves (maybe like fruit on a tree) or are they part of a larger belief system (like branches attached to a tree)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Peeling away the layers of external forces and turning inward to ourselves, frees us from the abdication of responsibility and the bearing of a burden of guilt for otherâ€™s actions, while in fact making letting it all go possible.&#8221;</p>
<p>Dang &#8211; you&#8217;ve dropped the nitty right into the gritty. You ought to consider writing stuff.</p>
<p>But tell me, do values just hang out there by themselves (maybe like fruit on a tree) or are they part of a larger belief system (like branches attached to a tree)?</p>
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